How will Web apps work over such a slow connection?

[The_Chupacabra]

Apple inexplicably chose to not spec a 3G radio for the iPhone, but at the same time refused to create an open platform for developers. If the only way to use non-Apple apps is through Web applications then it seems likely that the slow-as-molasses-in-January AT&T data network is going to make for a HORRIBLE experience.

- Lack of 3G
- Closed platform
- Lack of SD memory slot
- Phone locked to AT&T
- Limited Bluetooth
- Non-replaceable (by user) battery
- etc...

I guess Apple had to hold a few "features" back for "iPhone 2"

[AnteL0pe]

I have to wonder where you are when you're getting such a slow connection? Even when i'm without WiFi my network connection is pretty snappy. speed test shows im getting about 110 kbps or around 14 KBps which is fine for web browsing. Having moved from a Treo 650 on the same network I have to say that the iPhone seems much faster in displaying web pages.

[Camarochris]

Originally Posted by AnteL0pe

I have to wonder where you are when you're getting such a slow connection? Even when i'm without WiFi my network connection is pretty snappy. speed test shows im getting about 110 kbps or around 14 KBps which is fine for web browsing. Having moved from a Treo 650 on the same network I have to say that the iPhone seems much faster in displaying web pages.

Definitely agree there. I was pleasantly surprised that youtube was quite fast in loading videos and browsing as well.

[The Phone Diva]

From what I understand YouTube has some kind of plug-in for the iPhone. Or maybe it's the other way around. So it's been optimized.

There have been many reports of slow EDGE on the iPhone. But maybe that depends on the area you're in?

[AnteL0pe]

Originally Posted by The Phone Diva

From what I understand YouTube has some kind of plug-in for the iPhone. Or maybe it's the other way around. So it's been optimized.

Thats a special widget developed by apple and youtube. The videos have been re-encoded by youtube into h.264.

There have been many reports of slow EDGE on the iPhone. But maybe that depends on the area you're in?

It must.... I can understand how the data network would feel pokey to someone who a) had never used a data network on their phone before, or b) has gotten used to 3g, but this EDGE access is faster than it ever was on my Treo. Not only is it faster, but i'm not loading full pages and the iPhone still seems to load pages faster than my Treo ever did.

[bruckwine]

The "faster" EDGE on the iPhone is due to the recnt updates by AT&T for that purpose..soon any AT&T EDGE should experience the same...plenty say it's still slow..but at least it's not GPRS!

P.S. Youtube video has been recoded to smaller birates for EDGE dloads (and isn't good by all accounts - wifi is though they say)- anybody has examples to upload cuz i can't imagine how that looks when on yt site they already look poor wrt quality

[oxoxtro600]

I have measured the EDGE rates at 45-55 kbps on my iphone in Wellesley - west of Boston. I don't know whether or not ATT upgraded EDGE around here. It doesn't seem like it.

[AnteL0pe]

I'm getting more like 100-120kbps on bandwidth tests from the dc area.

[burnsaa]

When checking the Iphone out in the mac store in the seattle area (Redmond to be exact) I showed speeds of 175kbs which is exactly what my treo 750 got when I switched it to Edge so it seems that they have done something because I wasnt able to get more than 90k before the Iphone came out. Thanks Apple and at&t now I can keep my 750 on the edge network and save some battery life on my 750 while I wait to save up some money for an Iphone

[dgoodisi]

Sorry, Edge is slow. That it appears to be "fast enough" does not change the fact that it is slow.

From this thread Edge maxed out at 175kbps. I'm getting 600-800kbps with EVDO in San Diego.

Regarding the faster page rendering on the iPhone vs the Edge based Treo's; this is an indicator of the CPU (iPhone better than Treo), not the bandwidth (iPhone=Treo). Treo CPUs are not very fast.