iPhone & youTube

[Malatesta]

Originally Posted by Bronxboy

Id rather be in a gilded walled garden than a 17 century prison. Palm Os does not even have support for flash 6 and no flash streaming from a browser (something that should be a no brainer) while the i-Phone is getting flash Lite & looking better by the minute.

Indeed as of launch, no Flash so you are mistaken there (though I anticipate it will get it sooner than later, just not now).

Flash Lite is rolling out across devices (newer WM devices have it installed and use it for the homescreen for various plugins). Flash 6 is a) old b) very poor for streaming to mobile devices, hence why companies like Opera are making their own flash for mobile. It's just not feasible for mobile today, it's not a "no brainer" if you are a programmer, which I take it you are not.

As far as knocking Palm OS, correct me if I'm wrong, but with Kinoma Player 4 EX, can't you stream YouTube directly? And wasn't that able to be done months ago? Also, the new Youtube mobile works on the 700p/755p already too.

They have their faults but there are a lot of media options (CORE Player?) for PalmOS and WM. I think you need to check your facts.

[mikec]

Originally Posted by Bronxboy

Id rather be in a gilded walled garden than a 17 century prison. Palm Os does not even have support for flash 6 and no flash streaming from a browser (something that should be a no brainer) while the i-Phone is getting flash Lite & looking better by the minute.

I hear ya...Palm OS is dead - 10 years old and counting....

[braj]

Originally Posted by archie

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but Exchange has a browser interface that the iPhone can use for the extended functionality.

Not really a big deal though since calDAV is the bees-knees and blows Exchange out of the water for efficiency.

A browser interface doesn't give you push mail and the browser interface for Outlook sucks monkey balls as well. Especially if you aren't using IE. It would be much better to have your mail forwarded to Yahoo and get IMAP push (iPhone supports that, right?). But that is if your work don't mind you doing that. Also, currently Yahoo mail only will send a reply as a Yahoo address, you can pay for the right to have it appear from your domain I believe.

[marcol]

Here's Apple's demo of YouTube on iPhone:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/internet/?feature=feature05

Plays full-screen, which is nice, and I presume means they've upped the resolution (usually 320 x 240?)

[surur]

Originally Posted by marcol

Here's Apple's demo of YouTube on iPhone:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/internet/?feature=feature05

Plays full-screen, which is nice, and I presume means they've upped the resolution (usually 320 x 240?)

I cant see it, as it wants me to install quicktime, and I'd rather not have that resource hog on my computer.

Surur

[braj]

Originally Posted by surur

I cant see it, as it wants me to install quicktime, and I'd rather not have that resource hog on my computer.

Surur

You're running Windows right? And you have a problem with Quicktime?

[dstrauss]

Originally Posted by marcol

Here's Apple's demo of YouTube on iPhone:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/internet/?feature=feature05

Plays full-screen, which is nice, and I presume means they've upped the resolution (usually 320 x 240?)

I noticed that the demo was prepared with the video already pre-loaded (look at the blue portion of the onscreen control). Will be VERY interesting to see how YouTube crawls out of an EDGE connection. My bet is the first person who uses one on the EDGE network and tries to scroll the New York Times home page like Jobs did in his demo will either (a) pull out all their hair, (b) throw the thing up against the wall in frustration, or (c) both. Even on a good EDGE connection, the internet on the Blackjack (at 70-120k) crawls by comparison. The difference when I'm on HSDPA is astounding.

[braj]

Yeah, they HAVE to get 3G for this thing if anyone wants YouTube away from a Wifi connection. Still, it does have Wifi at least.

The Safari demo looks really nice, and I envy iPhone users for being able to save Google map bookmarks (why they didn't include that on the Palm version is a mystery to me). I'm still not convinced the soft keyboard is a great innovation though. A BT keyboard should help that out though.

Apps like the stock widget could easily be developed for Palm as well, if Palm did enough to inspire developers. There are already apps that have the functionality just maybe not the style (except GX-5 maybe).

[surur]

Apple has taken over from realplayer when it comes to crapware on your computer. If I have to kill the ridiculous ipodservice one more time (on a computer I have never attached an Ipod to) I will scream.

Surur

[marcol]

Originally Posted by dstrauss

I noticed that the demo was prepared with the video already pre-loaded (look at the blue portion of the onscreen control).

I'm not sure about that. Isn't the d/l progress in the top (non-blue) bar, the same bar that shows the progress in playing the video? I think the lower (blue) bar might be volume.

OTOH...

Originally Posted by dstrauss

Will be VERY interesting to see how YouTube crawls out of an EDGE connection. My bet is the first person who uses one on the EDGE network and tries to scroll the New York Times home page like Jobs did in his demo will either (a) pull out all their hair, (b) throw the thing up against the wall in frustration, or (c) both. Even on a good EDGE connection, the internet on the Blackjack (at 70-120k) crawls by comparison. The difference when I'm on HSDPA is astounding.

...I agree completely with this. I hope they get the 3G version out asap... by the time it comes the UK would be nice