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Old 04-23-2008, 03:36 PM
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I, of course, disagree. In this case the motivation counts.
The screen on the Tilt looks better because HTC have (what you judge to be) good motives?

I do take your point, but for most it's really just a question of what you can buy and whether the product meets a need/satisfies a desire (with the occasional filtering for gross ethical transgression I guess).
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Surur is funning you again, dude. In fact, he had another post ready "Apple uses 3G too early, drains batteries, doesn't care about users..." just in case they'd announced already.

Remember, he's the iPhone Colbert!
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Surur is funning you again, dude. In fact, he had another post ready "Apple uses 3G too early, drains batteries, doesn't care about users..." just in case they'd announced already.

Remember, he's the iPhone Colbert!
"Apple uses 3G too early"

Now that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it. It must have been fun buying a product that was already obsolete on release day.

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"Apple uses 3G too early"

Now that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it.
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It must have been fun buying a product that was already obsolete on release day.
You bought a (non-3G) HTC Touch around that time, no?
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You bought a (non-3G) HTC Touch around that time, no?
I bought a Kaiser soon after

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I, of course, disagree. In this case the motivation counts. Apple consciously decided to use 2002 technology when everyone else was already 3G for 2 years now, to "protect their uses from battery life issues", and in the process deprived their users of the choice of sacrificing battery life for speed.

In this case its the paternalistic attitude which is galling, and its pretty funny seeing so many Apple fans buying into the "Jobs knows best" attitude.
And HTC's excuse for not including video drivers to make its recent round of devices the best they could be is?
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And HTC's excuse for not including video drivers to make its recent round of devices the best they could be is?
I missed where they said its for our own good.

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I missed where they said its for our own good.

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No, it was HTC's own good, which IMHO makes it worse.
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No, it was HTC's own good, which IMHO makes it worse.
The difference is one is lying (Apple) and one is telling the truth (HTC). I know which I prefer, but I understand Apple users prefer ignorant bliss.

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The difference is one is lying (Apple) and one is telling the truth (HTC). I know which I prefer, but I understand Apple users prefer ignorant bliss.

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Ah, I see, so telling the consumer "screw you" is better if a company tells you outright? That sentiment is the same in my book and doesn't matter how the company portrays it to the consumer.

Not everyone that buys an iPhone is an "Apple user" per se. Given the success of the device I would say that your assumptions of "iPhone users" are faulty. Plus, given that the chipsets and battery technology at the time the iPhone was in developement were not as efficient as current sets, I would say Apple made the right decision. What good would would a phone and heavy multimedia player be if it only got a couple hours of battery life? All you would need to do is use a typical 3G WM device for more than a couple of hours (using media of course) to understand.

Now where I do agree with you and your assumptions is Apple's omission of A2DP and voice command tech, which the iPhone could most certainly handle easily given the tech it has already present.
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