It's Official The Iphone Is A Dud!!!

[theog]

Originally Posted by KStewart

Sprint does the same.

Does sprint allow for a one-time change? I change my sero plan and my date did not change. Of course, I went up so maybe they waived it...

I agree with some of the others in this post, the iphone is a lot more than about 500,000 sales... this phone will push others to (hopefully MS and Palm) to think more about the UI than before. Maybe they -- or others -- will attempt to follow HTC's lead. I guess you could argue that HTC follow apple, but (I guess) you could have to know how long htc had their product in development....

Anyway, the iphone it is not a failure by any means. Plus you still have people, like my two cousins, who are waiting until their current contracts are up before making the leap, or even those waiting on iphone ver. 2 before jumping over. I do not want one due to ATT (not very good here, IMO), but many others do....

[surur]

Exactly how would you change the WM or PalmOs UI without impacting functionality?

Surur

[marcol]

Originally Posted by mobileman

Wasn't the first shipment completely sold out over the first weekend? 146,000 sold doesn't sound so bad if only 150,000 were available.

As I posted in the other thread, it was sold out in all 1800 AT&T stores and 24 of the 164 Apple stores by the end of Saturday (some, IIRC, sold out Friday night) and was sold out everywhere by Thursday:

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/30/...ut-of-iphones/
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/07/05/...stores-almost/

Given that 140 Apple stores where still selling phones Sunday to Thursday and the 146,000 number is activations not sales, it seems only only reasonable to conclude that the initial shipment to stores was a fair bit more than 150,000. There will have been web sales too of course and none of those would appear in these early activation numbers (I don't think they shipped until the second week of July).

Originally Posted by mobileman

We need more info.

Agreed.

[marcol]

Originally Posted by ronbo2000

Until the new site comes up, I can not do it. The links breaks between here and PhoneDifferent.

It will be addressed in the future.

Thanks for the info.

[mobileman]

Originally Posted by surur

Exactly how would you change the WM or PalmOs UI without impacting functionality?

Surur

for WM:
Get rid of the start menu, get rid of the toolbars on top and bottom of sreen, make it easy to switch fonts (like the blackberry).

for Palm OS:
who cares, hasn't been updated in years.

[surur]

Originally Posted by mobileman

for WM:
Get rid of the start menu, get rid of the toolbars on top and bottom of sreen, make it easy to switch fonts (like the blackberry).

But where would you put your status information if you take away the top toolbar, and softkeys at the bottom are rather traditional in mobile phones.

The start menu is just a task switcher, with a MRU used list. I really dont get the issues people have with it. Its greatest sin is probably that its stylus-centric, but using shortcuts it still works rather well with a keyboard.

Surur

[Freak4Dell]

Why would you get rid of the start menu? How would you get to your programs, then? Don't tell me that everyone would have to use one of those programs where it places a bunch of icons on your Today screen, because not everyone likes those, me included.

The top toolbar holds the information for your phone. Without it, there's no way to tell how much battery you have left, what your signal level is, or what the time is. Again, don't tell me about one of those programs that puts these things on your Today screen.

The softkey stuff on the bottom is also essential, not so much for the Today screen, but for other programs. 3rd party programs are all different, and the softkey functions a different way for every one of them. I know there's been many times when I think I'm clicking continue and instead end up clicking cancel or back or something.

[marcol]

Originally Posted by Freak4Dell

Why would you get rid of the start menu? How would you get to your programs, then? Don't tell me that everyone would have to use one of those programs where it places a bunch of icons on your Today screen, because not everyone likes those, me included.

I'd guess you'd have a home screen and a dedicated hard button to get to it, the way Palm OS, S60 and iPhone do it. That's pretty top of my WM UI wish list.

[surur]

Originally Posted by marcol

I'd guess you'd have a home screen and a dedicated hard button to get to it, the way Palm OS, S60 and iPhone do it. That's pretty top of my WM UI wish list.

You can get to at least 12 apps from the start menu. I dont see the point in replacing it with a button that takes you to the Programs folder. I think it saves you time on average.

You put your 7 favourite apps on the start menu, and the 5 Most Recently Used contains the other ones. This way you avoid scrolling if you use the Zip utility a lot.

Surur

[oalvarez]

Originally Posted by marcol

I'd guess you'd have a home screen and a dedicated hard button to get to it, the way Palm OS, S60 and iPhone do it. That's pretty top of my WM UI wish list.

yes, i think it's much easier to have them on a home screen as well. i don't care for the "push start (hopefully with your finger), select program (hopefully the one you need is on the list). that is one thing i will give Palm, it's home screen, but that's about it!