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Old 11-27-2008, 11:03 AM
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Dizzy I don't believe in full and complete restores unless your phone is spitting up blood hen it tries to push email--exactly, it's just ridiculous.

Restore via iTunes and just delete and reinstall all apps downloaded. And yeah it's like Christmas or Hannukah or Kwanza or whatever your fancy
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Dizzy I don't believe in full and complete restores unless your phone is spitting up blood hen it tries to push email--exactly, it's just ridiculous.

Restore via iTunes and just delete and reinstall all apps downloaded. And yeah it's like Christmas or Hannukah or Kwanza or whatever your fancy
for a holiday is came early
Sorry but I'm going to completely disagree with you. Anyone with a lot of experience with smartphones knows if for some reason you need to restore/hard reset due to a problem you may be having you never... ever... restore a old back up file on to the fresh install. Who is to say the issue you are having is not on that back up file? So sure a fresh install and lets just put our problem right back on the device by restoring that old backup! I'm not the smartest guy in the world but please take my advice on that Dizzy.

Spend the extra few minutes to get it right. Chances are you will have less or NO issues.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:57 PM
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If you can isolate the issues--you do not have to go to the extreme. I have had my share of smartphones also.

If you are good enough (or simply want to take the time to find the issue) you can find the issue rather than just heading straight for a restore!
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:58 PM
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If you can isolate the issues--you do not have to go to the extreme. I have had my share of smartphones also.

If you are good enough (or simply want to take the time to find the issue) you can find the issue rather than just heading straight for a restore!
You missed my point...

"Anyone with a lot of experience with smartphones knows if for some reason you need to restore/hard reset due to a problem you may be having you never... ever... restore a old back up file on to the fresh install."

Notice the "IF FOR SOME REASON YOU NEED"...

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Old 11-28-2008, 01:12 PM
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I read what you typed clearly.

I said that you do not have to do a restore (completely without backup file) if you can find the real issue.

I know that sometimes it happens that it is something in the backup file but I like to test it first by not restoring from a backup...if still acts up, then I would do a complete restore...would blow but I just like to really look at every possible answer.
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I read what you typed clearly.

I said that you do not have to do a restore (completely without backup file) if you can find the real issue.

I know that sometimes it happens that it is something in the backup file but I like to test it first by not restoring from a backup...if still acts up, then I would do a complete restore...would blow but I just like to really look at every possible answer.
All I'm doing is to try to get across IF you need to restore not to use a backup file. That's just me. That's all.
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Oh I understand.
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Sorry but I'm going to completely disagree with you. Anyone with a lot of experience with smartphones knows if for some reason you need to restore/hard reset due to a problem you may be having you never... ever... restore a old back up file on to the fresh install. Who is to say the issue you are having is not on that back up file? So sure a fresh install and lets just put our problem right back on the device by restoring that old backup! I'm not the smartest guy in the world but please take my advice on that Dizzy.

Spend the extra few minutes to get it right. Chances are you will have less or NO issues.
I did a complete restore without restoring any backup since it really doesn't matter too much. I use exchange so once I setup my exchange account again i had all my calendar and contacts back. I had to setup my 3 email accounts (1 being the exchange) again, but that took all of 4 mins. The only other downside was having to retype username / password into some apps. I actually think this was a good thing since it's like having a fresh install and everything seems a touch more zippy.

And of course the battery super drain is gone now! Thanks for the help Ash.

@MrEClass I did try to figure out the problem as I'm the type of person that really needs to know why, plus I am in the IT field. But seeing as I depend on my phone as the lifeline for my IT/Web Dev business I just needed this fixed. So after playing around with it for a day I decided to just go for the sure fix and swallow my pride on trying to understand exactly what it was
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I understand about not restoring from a backup. What I don't understand is, what about all the other program data *besides* usernames and passwords, that you can't just "re-enter"? For instance, in Hold 'Em Poker, how would I restore my millions of dollars in winnings without the backup?
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I understand about not restoring from a backup. What I don't understand is, what about all the other program data *besides* usernames and passwords, that you can't just "re-enter"? For instance, in Hold 'Em Poker, how would I restore my millions of dollars in winnings without the backup?
I think in that case you are just SOL

Would be nice if the games themselves could be backed up outside of the phone backup. Although I think games are storing data online now so that would help too.
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