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Old 09-23-2009, 11:40 PM
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Default AT&T will catch people who hacked MMS early?

Someone posted this in the story on TiPB about the AT&T MMS text message today...

"Yesterday I talked to an AT&T rep. She told me that if you phone was hacked for mms come Friday they will be able to determine that,and your warranty will automatically [sic] expire."

How can they determine this? They may if when they turn it on a backlog of 500 pictures go out? But besides that, how can they tell? And you can update your carrier file without JBing right?
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:53 PM
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Yeah, you can update without jailbreaking...you just have to install the most recent carrier file. I wonder if people who change the carrier file back to the original before Friday will be safe.

Also, can't people just say that they switched to a different phone that allows MMS and that's how they sent them?
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Yeah, you can update without jailbreaking...you just have to install the most recent carrier file. I wonder if people who change the carrier file back to the original before Friday will be safe.
But how will they know?

That is my question.
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Doesn't matter what an AT&T rep says, your warranty is an apple issue, not AT&T. I do not believe they can tell if you had a hacked carrier file, your rep is full of poo.
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Doesn't matter what an AT&T rep says, your warranty is an apple issue, not AT&T. I do not believe they can tell if you had a hacked carrier file, your rep is full of poo.
I didn't talk to the rep, someone posted that they did...

But I didn't think they would know...that is unless you've got a backlog of crap to send off your device and that is a HUGE stretch.
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Scare tactic. I've found that AT&T reps are routinely full of crap. I honestly feel like they will say any old thing some times..
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Big brother can see a lot of things these days.
And you're saying that because....

Seriously, if I have a problem with my phone, I'm sure not going to AT&T anyway. I'm going to Apple but still what do you mean?
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With their ability to ping devices and know what they are by IMEI number, as well as Vendor ID numbers, people would have to be ignorant to believe that AT&T can't tell what kind of data is flowing through your phones.

The bill you receive has an itemized list of data, messaging and voice. All they have to do is have the phone deliver a log file to them that outlines any software upgrades or software installs that have been implemented since the phone was activated.

There is always a way that these companies can tell. I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it is possible. As long as they have access to the OS in a developer manner, they can code software, or even have Apple do it for them through some form of agreement that was signed by both. The phone just needs to tell them that the MMS switch was turned on. If it was before a certain time and date, and the user is not a developer of some sort, then the bells sound and they know.

I am sure that it is much more complicated than that, but I can guarantee you that it is possible.
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With their ability to ping devices and know what they are by IMEI number, as well as Vendor ID numbers, people would have to be ignorant to believe that AT&T can't tell what kind of data is flowing through your phones.

The bill you receive has an itemized list of data, messaging and voice. All they have to do is have the phone deliver a log file to them that outlines any software upgrades or software installs that have been implemented since the phone was activated.

There is always a way that these companies can tell. I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it is possible. As long as they have access to the OS in a developer manner, they can code software, or even have Apple do it for them through some form of agreement that was signed by both. The phone just needs to tell them that the MMS switch was turned on. If it was before a certain time and date, and the user is not a developer of some sort, then the bells sound and they know.

I am sure that it is much more complicated than that, but I can guarantee you that it is possible.
Ok let's get serious here. Yes it is possible. But is it feasible. They can barely implement a feature on a device that has over a million users. You think they have time for that? The ROI on this isn't there for them to do it @ this time. The cost of what they would lose would be much more than what they would gain.

I vote no on the spying @ this point. Later maybe but no now.
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