Blackberry Storm ~ iPhone Killer?

[Bad Ash]

Originally Posted by mycrownvic02

Plenty of people have iphones at the bb site. Their is even a dedicated section for the iphone fyi.. That picture means plenty, to everyone that mentions how crappy, and or how rim cant make good phones, and that wasnt necessarily for you, it was for the people mentioning how crappy rim is, weather you care about it or not. Also, we are talking about a phone that has some similar stats to the iphone. Its called the storm

FYI... Quality not quantity my friend... and I was making a point about RIM regarding the Bold... there "ace" phone at the moment. The Storm won't hold a candle to either the iPhone or iPhone 3g in terms of sales or anything else for that matter. You keep repeating yourself telling people to hold off on their opinions. Everyone has a right to their opinions, so let them speak it and move on.

[mycrownvic02]

As for the push button on the berry, I will save my comments on it when I actually use it. Maybe I will like it, maybe not. Still not on the market for a touch device though, so in reality, I have no interest in buying this phone.

[mycrownvic02]

Originally Posted by Bad Ash

FYI... Quality not quantity my friend... and I was making a point about RIM regarding the Bold... there "ace" phone at the moment. The Storm won't hold a candle to either the iPhone or iPhone 3g in terms of sales or anything else for that matter. You keep repeating yourself telling people to hold off on their opinions. Everyone has a right to their opinions, so let them speak it and move on.

What exactly do you mean by that? Are you just strictly talking about sales, and or actual qualities of the device? As for the ace phone, I would consider the javelin the ace phone, not the bold. Talking to some insiders, all of then preferred the javelin over the bold, and based of the specs, it appears to be the sheer winner.

[Bad Ash]

Originally Posted by mycrownvic02

What exactly do you mean by that? Are you just strictly talking about sales, and or actual qualities of the device? As for the ace phone, I would consider the javelin the ace phone, not the bold. Talking to some insiders, all of then preferred the javelin over the bold.

I'm saying sales and overall device. If Apple were to make a phone with a keyboard I'd "probably" say that a BB would be a better choice. So RIM stepping into the touch screen market after their CEO publicly putting touch screens down... kind of amusing. RIM should stick with what they are good at.

It's hard to consider the Javelin a ace phone when it's actually a downgrade from the Bold. Smaller sure but edge only? No thanks.

[mycrownvic02]

Originally Posted by Bad Ash

I'm saying sales and overall device. If Apple were to make a phone with a keyboard I'd "probably" say that a BB would be a better choice. So RIM stepping into the touch screen market after their CEO publicly putting touch screens down... kind of amusing. RIM should stick with what they are good at.

It's hard to consider the Javelin a ace phone when it's actually a downgrade from the Bold. Smaller sure but edge only? No thanks.

None of the insiders consider it a downgrade at all. The javelin does not have 3g, but then again, 3g is pretty heavily flawed in everyphone that has it right now, battery life, ect.. With that said, many people wont even utilize 3g, seeing as not all places even have their networks properly setup for it. Besides not having 3g, the jav does offer a much better camera, it offers more memory for apps, which will help tremendously. It is alot less bulky, it has a better screen aswell.

[iphonetom]

Originally Posted by iPhoneMilk

I am a BB Hater,

They belong to business use only. It's pathetic and funny at the same time that they are trying to compete.

The new Blackberry iClones are stupid. They don't even come close. I hope blackberry fans read me say this as well. WAKE UP.


So many people forget the WHOLE big picture when comparing the 2 devices. the iPhone is MILES ahead of the blackberry in terms of overall package.

Sure you can throw some features down on the table and on paper the blackberry wins. We could be simple minded APES and say the BB would have a 3.0 Megapixel camera and the iPhone has 2.0 So the BB is better right?? i mean..*cough* am i right?

Lol...

What i love the most about it all is the easiest feature that everyone rushes to forgetting. THE IPOD.

no phone will ever compare to the IPOD and iTunes in terms of Media/Music/and Movies.
NONE. it aint happening at least for awhile...

got an iPhone? want to download a new song that you heard? or a friend mentioned to you? Sure.. just hope into a free wifi area and go purchase the song.
got an iPhone and heard about the new cool app that came out? but you wont be home until you fly back because you're out on travel? cool.. NP just download it and try it out while your out on the Go.

These are simple things here people.. i could go all day with this. but i'm not going to it's not even worth all the typing...

the simple truth is blackberry fans who think that the iClones are better then the iPhone are very very mistaken.

I find your vendetta against the BlackBerry pretty sad. It is a pretty good device and while I prefer the iPhone simply for style, branding and the applications, I like the BB aswel. I really don't think they are trying to compete with iPhone as such, they appeal to a different market. Businessmen who aren't interested in the iPhone fashion, because that is basically what it is. They want something serious and professional.

[Bad Ash]

Originally Posted by iphonetom

I find your vendetta against the BlackBerry pretty sad. It is a pretty good device and while I prefer the iPhone simply for style, branding and the applications, I like the BB aswel. I really don't think they are trying to compete with iPhone as such, they appeal to a different market. Businessmen who aren't interested in the iPhone fashion, because that is basically what it is. They want something serious and professional.

To say the iPhone is not serious or professional is a low blow... but that is your opinion. I won't call it "sad" either, that is your opinion and I respect it. I don't need a keyboard to be "serious and professional". I'm willing to bet that I can type faster and more accurately on my iPhone than most can on any BB. So what exactly makes a BB any more "serious and professional" than a iPhone? Is it the excellent multimedia features of the iPhone that makes it less "serious and professional"? (The only leg you have to stand on in this debate is email. Which of course is not the most stable on either side. Via BB outages and MobileMe growing pains)

[taroliw]

Originally Posted by Bad Ash

I know BB users are pretty loyal but you have to wonder how accepting they will be to a device that has no physical keyboard. Most BB users complain about that regarding the iPhone.

“I couldn’t type on it and I still can’t type on it, and a lot of my friends can’t type on it,” says Mike Lazaridis, R.I.M.’s co-chief executive and technological visionary. “It’s hard to type on a piece of glass.”

As a longtime blackberry, Nokia 6820, Treo 650, and Treo 680 user, I was really worried about how the iPhone keyboard would perform. And, yes, I do sometimes get irritated with the auto-spellcheck. But overall, I can type quite well on it for email and SMS -- I'm sure it will be OK for IM too, but first we need to untie developer hands and either have a notification API or enable backgrounding. In fact, I leave the "key"click turned on and people ask me how the heck I tap so fast on it. It really didn't take that much getting used to, /other/ than the placement of the backspace, shift, and carriage return "keys" as compared with the Treo keyboards.

As for the introduction of competitive products... well, heck, that's inevitable. And I think it's a /good/ thing. Because Apple has demonstrated that customers' needs don't seem to be the biggest motivators, so perhaps a little pressure from the competition will get them moving on the things we really need. (Which, in my opinion, would include getting rid of that stupid developer NDA and untying developers' hands from idiotic restrictions in the SDK so they can write truly innovative applications. My personal favs... Snapture (Camera done properly), Cycorder (what? no video Apple?).

If RIM has a real challenge, it's their OS platform. Before they're going to be able to do anything truly worthwhile and innovative -- "also ran" touch screens just won't do it, really -- their going to have to rearchitect that aging mess that lies beneath.

[Bad Ash]

Has anyone seen the new images that were leaked out today? The thing looks HUGE! Ouch... then again maybe it's the camera that adds some weight to it...

[mycrownvic02]

It may be the camera shots, or the circular edges of the phone that makes it look thick. I want a clear shot of the side showing how thick it is. I dont think it will be that thick, based on the rest of the bb's that are being released. The shots are all frontal.